It is a terrifying thought to be so close to shore, but trapped aboard a ship disintegrating with every crash of the waves. Left flat has an illegible oval cartouche of some sort. Add to Cart. The example offered is a classic of this type of line throwing. 10/25/2022 $25.00 (View Picture), 9485 WW2 VINTAGE WOOD SHIPPING CRATE FOR 10 GAUGE RED VERY SIGNALS - This originally had 24 boxes of 10 rounds each, but is now empty. 3/10/2023, US Militaria Technically this is not a firearm and no FFL is needed. The flare gun launcher fit the bill. Following his lead, numerous ship-borne devices became available to save grounded ships, but they were inaccurate, prone to water damage, complicated, or worse. British Webley & Scott #1 MK 2 Flare Gun Barrel w/Extractor, 1 Inch Bore *Good* . Schermuly made them from the 1920s up British WW1 1916 Dated Brass 1" MK III Trench Flare / Signal Pistol By Cogswell & Harrison London. WEBLEY SCHERMULY LINE GUN / FLARE PISTOL Webley Schermuly 1inch caliber line gun / flare pistol. An excellent bibliography and good index complete this book. Not to mention, that crews were not available in every town. The wire could be attached to a cable to help transfer people from ship to ship or shore to ship. Despite his success at the exposition, Schermuly saw virtually no interest in his invention. Dating from the 1920s this Schermuly Line Throwing Rocket Pistol has a brass frame and chamber, while the rocket tube, or barrel, is steel. We It was only after the SS Rohilla sank after hitting a mine in 1914 that the British Admiralty placed their first order for Schermuly rockets to be placed aboard troop and hospital ships. 3/9/2023, Ammunition for Collectors Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.170.24.122 (talk) 10:41, 25 June 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply], I think this is what is called in the UK a pen flare, and is not peculiar to Russia. However, to equip each ship with a Lyle gun or similar device would prove exceedingly expensive and take up space and weight, two precious commodities on a fully crewed cargo ship. *UK 2017 DEACTIVATION CERTIFICATED*. Use on websites that are primarily information-led, research-oriented and not behind a paywall. Scarce, Original, WW2 Imperial Japanese Navy, Second Variation Type 90 Triple Barrelled Flare/ Sign up to receive the latest news, advice and ads, straight to your inbox. D 1439. However, it was not enough. It has mahogany grips and a ribbed Bakelite secondary handle, and there are British proof marks on the chamber and frame. The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.194.127.112 (talk contribs) . This is a good WW1 German Hebel 27mm calibre Flare Pistol. To be rescued, one would pray they had just beached next to a town with such a crew that was also equipped with a Lyle gun. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 17:28, 14 November 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply], 26.5mm is not 1 inch (25.4mm) Is that a different metric standard for flares? The term crap was still used somewhat in America though, coming over pre-16th century from England, and it is thought that one of the reasons American soldiers seemed to universally take to calling the toilet The Crapper is they found it funny with crap meaning something to the effect of refuse and that most of the cisterns and toilets in England were stamped with T. This is a very WW1 Era German Hebel 27mm Trench Flare/ Signal Pistol. They can be purchased on a firearms license with the correct variation or deactivated to order with a full working action (cock, strip and dry fire). a FFL dealer in your area. I have 2 of these for sale, both in used but good well looked after condition. Please feel free to email me. His invention was usually ignored by the Admiralty, but by 1922 was used by 22 leading shipping lines. your connection to Schermuly as they have been wondering for years about their stock control position . Having used the line throwing gun in anger from a heaving R.A.F launch . The brass butt cap, trigger guard and band have a mellow golden patina. Change), You are commenting using your Twitter account. Webley Schermuly Riot Gun, launcher, grenade, moving barrel Label This riot gun is one of several patterns which have seen service with the British Army, most notably during the 'Troubles' in Northern Ireland. Kite launching rockets deployed emergency radio aerial antennae. 1 Mark III flare signal pistol marked SPRA for the Schermuly Pyrotechnic Rocket Association on the frame and commercial crown proofs on the barrel. The fact that it remained in production through World War II is further testament to its reliability and necessity. Also included is the tin case which measures approximately 19" x 7" x 25" which is complete with 4 unopened boxes of 250 1/2 inch line, 4 deactivated rockets, original instruction label and more! to Collectors Headquarters. militaria page. After leaving the sea in 1880, he of course had a soft spot for the men who still earned their living there and often risked their lives. I discovered that it is missing the extractor, but since no one has the impulse cartridges or rockets any more who cares. 3/9/2023, US Militaria The fire plume and smoke trail made the line easy to find for the rescuing surf crews. Beautiful AYA No4 12 Bore Side by Side Shotgun. My old man has a couple of the line throwing guns too beauties. directly to you, as long as there are no state or local restrictions (California??). Original Items: Only one set available. There are also stories of attaching a grappling hook of sorts to it and firing it over barbed wire so that it could be more easily pulled away. whole: L: 82.2cms This book is the best single reference on this subject for collectors today. November 1918. Loaded, live round, but due to age and apparent poor storages sold as display item only and not safe for actual use. WWII saw the Schermuly company providing all manner of rocket equipment for the war effort, from the PAC Rocket to the Grapnel Rocket used to great effect by the US Rangers on D Day. Named for their inventor, West Point and MIT graduate First Lieutenant David A. Lyle, these guns were heavy, experienced massive recoil, and used a special type of blackpowder, making them a welcome rescue tool though difficult and cumbersome to use. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. This is a December 1918 dated example with the top wad markings clean and legible. When water-based transportation and shipping was so prevalent and important, the impact of his life saving devices cannot be overlooked, no matter how easy it may be do so in a modern world where that technology has largely been replaced. William Schermuly 1857-1929 was one of the fathers of modern rocketry. 12/7/2022, Books for 12/7/2022, Accessories & Parts He invented several different line throwing devices, some of which were used in WWI for such things as throwing telephone lines from trench to trench while under fire. Sign me up to the gunstar.co.uk newsletter, Send me offers and promotions from third parties. See photo for details, including a small hole poked in the paper case- not a big deal, but we don't like to surprise people. Change). Please use the print button in the share bar at the top of the page. Items Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. His lifes work complete, he saved thousands of lives at sea, contributed to the seafaring life he loved so dearly, and fought successfully for new legislation to save even more lives. Nick Cooper (talk) 12:47, 3 May 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply], I'm coming across this rather late, butthe reference to "flare gun" may quite possibly be a matter of the writer of the lyrics of "Smoke on the Water" taking creative liberties in describing the event, rather than referring to the actual sequence of events. Growing up on an island, I would find quite a few fired flare cases and parachutes and found the odd live item too. If you do not have a C&R FFL, then we can only ship guns made after 1898 to This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 18 January 2022). you certify that you understand and agree to these terms. Besides, ship-borne lifesaving devices could also be used from ship to ship while at sea. or check with the owner if they are consignment pieces. VERY RED STAR Nimrod Erez) shuts 5 flares from a flare gun on Eygeption patrol boat at the Marsa Talamat battle. sheet") to conduct the required federal "Brady" instant background check, and any other paperwork required in your area before allowing you to take possession. $575.00 (View Picture), **NEW ADDITION** 19995 RARE WW1 37mm BRITISH FLARE GUN CARTRIDGE- DEC 1918 - Paper case with brass base marked ELEY LONDON- and closing wad marked The pattern #179997 is noted on the frame. The Schermuly Pistol Rocket Apparatus by Joel R Kolander. An excellent example of as scarce line thrower/flare pistol. The word Schermuly is synonymous with an illumination parachute flare but where does it come from? So he did what anyone would do took the best of both inventions and combined them. NOTE: THE ITEMS BELOW ARE "ANTIQUES" AND DO NOT REQUIRE A FFL FOR SHIPMENT. To drive the point home of how important this invention was, ships during this time were still dependent on sail or steam for power, and commonly ran aground. Does anyone know the situation in the rest of the world? Also, ships were often dependent on the surf crews for rescue. You may download material from this site for your own personal use only, Winchesters, Lugers, Smith and Wesson, Colts, Antique Guns, Modern Guns, Firearms, Swords, Ammunition, Militaria. For details on how we use your data, please see our, 2023 gunstar.co.uk - all rights reserved - a member of the Friday-Ad network|, I would like to receive the newsletter for savings opportunities and suggestions, Sign me up to the gunstar.co.uk newsletter, Send me offers and promotions from third parties. However, a gun also introduced recoil, a bad thing on the deck of a wet ship, and to achieve a distance equal to that of a rocket required a massive powder charge that often risked breaking the line. All orders are subject to acceptance by IMA Inc, which reserves the right to refuse any order. Usually comprised entirely of volunteers, the crews, while brave, often lacked training or expertise with equipment such as the Lyle gun. William Schermuly still envisioned a simpler device that eliminated faults in his design, which was not very durable, prone to cross winds, and took 5-10 seconds to ignite. Twenty-two different shipping lines were using his rockets, and by 1929, the Merchant Shipping Act mandated that Every British ship exceeding five hundred tons when going to sea from any port in the United Kingdom shall be provided with a line-throwing appliance approved by the Board of Trade. Nineteen days later, Schermuly died. The Schermuly Rocket Pistol Apparatus (SPRA) fired a short blank cartridge which ejected the rocket, the rocket then ignited and propelled the line to the target ship, shore or person in distress. I am not sure what the purpose of the article Firearm (tool) is but in this context someone who did not know might be think that the distinction between firearms and guns is that the former is not used to kill people! After leaving the sea in 1880, he of course had a soft spot for the men who still earned their living there and often risked their lives. Mechanism works great. Despite being given a stiff ignoring by the Admiralty, by 1922 the Schermuly Line Throwing device was in widespread use in the shipping industry with the first sales coming in 1912. This page is not available in other languages. This is an old English made Schermuly Line Throwing Gun. This is unlikely to have been a Very pistol, given the location it was probably a moutain rescue flare gun (a far simpler device), but it definitely wasn't a simple hand-held flare. The level shows the proper elevation to hold the flare gun when it is used as a line thrower. William Schermuly was born in 1857 going to sea on HMS Warspite and a succession of other ships after. 450 ONO. Some 96 different Flare or Signal pistols are covered, with dimensions and some historical background and information on maker and the intended use. There were numerous signal flares, various uses for projected lines, and perhaps most pleasing to the inventor, several ways to aid seamen in peril on the sea, such as lifeboat distress signals and self-inflating life rafts that automatically fired rocket propelled lines into the water so that the crew could pull themselves aboard. Crapper & Co Ltd. He was famous for his invention of sea rescue, line throwing apparatus including rockets and flare pistols. 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