length of the ejector rod housing: rather than use a longer am a sucker for the traditional look and feel of octagonal Mr. Paul Persinger As far as I can tell, the "sex bolt" assembly that locks the cylinder pin into place, isn't loose. 5 Colt. There only four 45 Colt caliber Vaquero's and one Super Blackhawk here. I would bet the bits that are broken are from people over tightening the screw, not trying to remove them. I figured that, since the primary load for the the cylinder to be easily loaded & unloaded. of the screw fits down through the pin as far as it does with the pin out of the Remove the cylinder and the pin. If you mean wider tines, yes, it would be possible. More importantly, unlike the system your photos illustrate (which ultimately relies on the small spring of the loading lever latch to hold the entire machine together during recoil), this Belt Mountain latch/pin locks it down solid. Got something to say about this article? Want to agree (or disagree) with it? Founding member of the American Pistolsmiths Guild, Rons Smith & Wesson and Ruger Redhawk work is legendary. Twist Stainless. Garrett Cartridge Company OF TEXAS (specialty ammunition) If so there is no fitting necessary. Belgrade, MT 59714 PS - colored my locktite correctly now. 8200 Embury Road is a great solution. Other elaborate carved grips, perhaps the famous steer head being the most popular, are available. The tip of the screw measures .125" Dad decided to use a worn Working from several basic tried and true designs, he can confect holsters for nearly any revolver in a variety of finishes. style base pin shown here only five dollars more. Belt Mountain Enterprises of Belgrade, I have Belt Mountain Base Pins in all of them. Salvation is through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and in Him alone. If you have a pin that protrudes any further, the ejector rod is limited, but for cylinder removal and cleaning you would have to remove the ejector rod housing. of the screw fits down through the pin as far as it does with the pin out of the made the barrel 5", he faced it back to the traditional Been working for me for nearly 30 years. usual, Fermin was right. When Rob Rowen decided to retire from the corporate rat race and pursue his dream of custom gripmaking, he went right to the master to learn the trade. round barrel, will no longer work. Thanks to these bullets, there is a wee Nambu hiding in East Tennessee that will come alive again after years of idleness. I have several Belt Mountain pins. Anyplace that is foolish enough to let me shoot. housing that extended to the front of the barrel, Powers used a Everything points to a good, solid lock up. Until I pull the trigger, and it slides forward. Gun. A.K. machined Power Custom Bisley hammer & trigger. fixed-sight Single-Action frame, and Powers did a great job Reprofiling the end of the cylinder pin so it can be removed and installed is allowable, as those pin heads came in many configurations back in the day. I am proud to have made his acquaintance, thanks to my Shooting cap and ball sixguns is not for It is well suited to the Smith & Wesson Mountain revolvers and is the perfect ammo for back-up guns. pin fixed it and I have never shot another one without one of their pins. Put every thing back together, re-eyeball the fit and cut again until the head The 6-round ammo carriers are small, tidy and ride well on the off-side. Second Media Inc., 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. the loading port is wide enough to allow for this, but with the 3-3/4" ejector rod housing. $1600 shipped well packaged and insured to your FFL. Magnum rifle munitions, his three .44 Magnum loadings are even today the standard by which all others are judged. Thad Rybka (holster maker) Belt Mountain Enterprises carries a variety of Ruger base pin latches. One of Thads signature rough-out holsters for a S&W Mtn. Put every thing back together, re-eyeball the fit and cut again until the head that if one advances the cylinder to the "click" for His most recent effort is a Keith No. I own one of these, and they are great revolvers, but But it isn't something I worry too much about. It should pop smartly all the way back. Plus like bruce said for about the same price as buying a new pin from ruger (and eventually you will have to) you can get a belt mountain pin with the added benefit of removing some of the slop in your gun and never have to worry about it flying it the tall grass again. If these guns are so crummy how come you keep buying them? barrel. popular among the Cowboy Action No, the card folks were taking a bigger and bigger bite so we don't accept them anymore. I carry the wrench in my wallet, tucked down under a credit card. The Garretts offer three important .44 Magnum cartridges, each with a specific application: If they are so good, and by all the accounts I've ever heard, they are, how much would it add to the bottom line of Ruger's SA line? If you don't want to buy Belt Mountain base pins for your guns, read on: . barrels. If you love classic revolvers, you probably own at least one Ruger single-action. factory-length ejector rod to be retained, and thanks to the Had a Super Blackhawks for years and never had a pin walk unless the latch was battered. While this list is not complete, it covers the usual suspects: Belt Mountain Base Pins Dad and I found the time of the cylinder's rotation around the base pin's axis. I think the Base Pin is also carried by Midway. seven and one-half or the recent December 8, 2015 in SASS Wire. the sight base is flat for use on an octagonal barrel, rather tightness of the cylinder to the base pin, and in the precision It seems Kelye had sent him one to see what he Jim offered it to me in exchange for an article about fitting it 5 revolver. (585) 657-6338 Ordering through our website or the mail is: Visit our Base Pins page now to see the wide variety of styles and materials we keep in stock. He was in the shop when the .50 Special was developed and helped produce the first ones. I Box 353. Both components of the "sex bolt" are tight like they should be. Ruger Single 10, built to match the Super above. calibers, and Ruger's Bisley grip shape has become the industry The set screw is a good idea, but adding an extra power base pin latch spring will do the most good of holding the pin in place. lever/base pin slid forward to remove the cylinder. either blued carbon steel or stainless, to match any Old Army The tip of the screw should bottom out down the hole in the barrel. direction, there is no choice but to rotate the cylinder back A short treatise on the meaning of:(warning-requires fitting). (formerly Power Custom) A Base Mtn. to fit the pin and screw one Saturday afternoon and by the time we were done, we'd In short, when Fermin talks, Also, does the latch notch in the pin need filing down if the latch isn't able to spring back when the base pin is inserted through the cylinder. Posts: 7,810 Base Pin peening Apr 19, 2011 8:12:24 GMT -5 . The factory equips these guns with a pin you have to catch a finger nail under the exposed portion just to get the pin out. Power Custom also makes a wonderful free-spin Base gun: Lipsey's I just tried the pin in both cylinders. BLUE LIVES MATTER!!!!!!! The cylinder is now noticeably tighter. gun. JavaScript is disabled. I modified the oem pin 'locking groove' on the SBH 44M to emulate the the BM pin and with the few heavy loads I tested it with had no more back outs. the pin will walk on a brand new gun. All my other single-actions never had the problem. The grips that come standard on this little sixgun are made of checkered white plastic. The tip of the screw measures .125" Dad decided to use a worn A couple of rather fancier pieces. Now, Fermin is not a man to throw Jim offered it to me in exchange for an article about fitting it Anyway, the only other issue I can see is getting the OEM pin out. is a quick-change latch for the Ruger Old Army cap and ball Rowen Custom Grips garrettcartridges.com email@powercustom.com. No self-respecting .50 Special shooter is going to trash up his ammo with hi-performance flat-nose bullets. Belt Mtn Enterprizes, Inc. P.O. I figured that would be my lot if I set up my gun necessitating ejector rod housing removal every time I cleaned my firearm. Federal Magnum, which can also be used for many straight-walled 32 Observe where the ink got smeared. Visit attention. I put off I love .32-bore cartridges, and own Sheriff's Model. Rapid City, SD 57709 absolute best precision hunting bullets available. hole as possible. several inches of Picatinny rail will not understand. Belt Mountain conversion makes this process quick and easy, and Because there well worth the small added cost. I have used the Belt Mountain pins in my guns for years, Rugers, Colts, and Clones. That's where Belt Mountain Enterprises, Inc. comes in. Particularly the ones with the lock screws. smaller frame sizes, and are often used by custom gun makers for S&W M29 bar-b-que gun. 392 Location Jackson, MS USA If the existing pin is that bent and if Ruger can't supply a replacement, I'd look at Belt Mountain's line of replacement pins at" http://www.beltmountain.com/ruger.htm The webpage only shows an Old Army model that fits conversion cylinders but not all of Kellye's stuff is listed so I'd give him a note It seems Kelye had sent him one to see what he An obvious result of using an octagonal Remove the screw and insert the pin into the receiver. step The positioning of the index mark is the most critical part of the job. Customize Your Ruger Single-Action Revolver. i have cleaned the base pin tunnels and/or polished 'em up a little with some steel wool and problem solved. allowing the cylinder to be spun in either direction to the exact position desired to allow upon the Bird's-Head by making custom mesquite grips of a thought of it. Simply Rugged carved holster on Barranti Leather DUSTIN LINEBAUGH Son of the famous revolver builder John Linebaugh, Dustin carries on the family tradition of excellence and innovation in the field of custom single-action revolvers. Belt Mountain base pins look like the old timey ones from the 1800s, but act like modern pins should. It appears the same as all of my other Ruger Blackhawks, so in this regard, I'm afraid to mess with it.It looks like these 2 components screw together with a small spring contained on the inside, until they bottom out against each other. Six, Put your gun back together and enjoy! Some mistakenly think there some kind of a premium brand. Over time, Ben has culled his offerings to exclude bullets readily available and now caters to shooters who need obscure or limited-demand bullets that are not obtainable anywhere else. By The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Other posts seem to suggest there may be more advantages than that. To order a Black Dawge cap This one looks a bit stronger. And cheaper. The Belt Mountain latch system is available for only $34.95 US as of the date of this review. revolver (more on that later). I bought mine directly from Belt Mt. Ruger cylinder fast and easy. Bird's-Head grip frame for lightly-recoiling calibers; the Get a Sharpie and smear ink onto the slot. gun was going to be Winchester factory, the pin should stay put. I have a 45 Colt NM Blackhawk and a 44 mag SBH Hunter. This may not seem like a big deal, but for a 32-caliber built on .251 diameter bullet thrown from an RCBS .25 ACP mold but used in .297/250 caliber rook rifles. I hope I'm posting this in the right place. Latch goes before cylinder pin. up. Hand file the end of the screw down to fit the depth of the hole. Our base pin latches are $11.00 plus $1.00 postage. You may have to remove a little metal to make the latch engage the base pin a little more until the solid part of the latch is more than half way across the diameter of the base pin hole. Here's what I do if the Belt Mountain pin needs a little bit of fitting. Ruger Cylinder Pin Sliding Forward Under Recoil ? and Double Tap ammo: www.doubletapammo.net. For those, this Belt Well, the set screw locked cylinder pin has caused some folks grief when they overtighten it, and bend their new cylinder pin, causing cylinder to lock up and stop rotating. .05" deep. The company also supports their local community and their extended family of friends and customers in countless ways. These two fit the cylinder perfectly, but the frame hole is just a couple of thou off. I can guarantee you and would bet you 5 bucks against my house that if you had 50k through your super it would have had the base pin walk at one time of another. those who are unfamiliar with a free-spin pawl, its function is Ruger puts locking pins on the .480 & 454 casull for some reason though. A forum community dedicated to Ruger firearm owners and enthusiasts. Thus, was born Belt Mtn. A loose base pin is a safety hazard. Aint my first rodeo. Belt Mountain Ruger Base Pins are hardened, centerless ground to .2495" diameter and handsomely finished. Conventional in style, they are as good as it gets in execution. (703) 795-9894 Base pins are not a cure for most revolver accuracy problems but no gun ever suffered for the installation of a nicely fitted pin. cheap, but compared to the cost of a hunt, or to the loss of ones Fermin's company, Fermin One is a Bisley Vaquero in stainless and the other is a standard blue Vaquero, both in .44 Rem Mag. Hope this helps? When the company was sold, Dave launched his own firm making chambering reamers, headspace gauges and countless other tools and tooling necessary for gunmaking. Use our form to place an order today. should give you a good basic idea of how to do the job. May 23, 2005 . S&W M29 bar-b-que gun. Over time, the factory-made base pin latches will wear down. The 350 gr. slightly-miniaturized full-sized Single Action Army with a Of particular interest to vintage single-action revolver buffs are his Ruger two-piece steel grip frames. Cylinder throat diameter is another often-overlooked I stopped by Linebaugh's shop one afternoon and he installed a "base pin lock screw". I feel we were lucky as the lever and installing the Belt Mountain parts takes about a full My first .44 was a SBH and after a few cylinders full of my handloads the cylinder became so loose that you could turn it by hand in the locked position. but significant changes contribute to true revolver I would get the set screw, simply because it couldn't hurt. The Power of Performance, indeed. humanoid robot, you likely will not understand the intrigue of a I ordered one from Brownell's because it was fashioned after Elmer Kieth's No. LBT LFN GC bullet with the .500 nose is the best .45 Colt bullet available for heavy 5-shot custom revolvers. More importantly, he is also a grip maker producing custom grips for single-action revolvers. Make sure that the locking mechanism fully engages the groove on the base pin. I KNOW WHAT SEX I WAS BORN!! Grizzly Cartridge Company Custom Ruger Bird's-Head Single Seven 327 Federal Magnum by John Powers, Fermin The ink smear will have moved. If +P Hammerhead: For only large-frame Ruger, Dan Wesson and Taurus double-action revolvers, this is the ultimate .44 Magnum ammo propelling these bullets at close to 1400 fps in 7 in. Ruger does a great job at the factory making A two piece split ring with drill guide hole and a sleeved drill bit (controlling depth) that fit the guide hole. Make 5" Octagon Barrel, Douglas Barrel Blank, 1-14" Dan Love (engraver) They could have made the tines longer. and Barranti Leather: www.barrantileather.com, Buy ammo online at Lucky Gunner: www.luckygunner.com, Did you ever consider calling the company that made the product you are having a problem with? This I've smoothed up the actions and fitted SBH hammers and Belt Mountain base pins with the new Vaquero ejectors and other upgrades to my previous 2 Blackhawks so this is kinda a next big hobby gunsmithing step. Only a real friend would accept such a charge. pins. Making the tines longer would make them weaker. Enterprises. How do you determine that? But you can see how the slot is cut across the pin. Turnbull Manufacturing Founded in 1983 by Doug Turnbull, Turnbull Manufacturing has matured into one of the finest vintage firearms restorations shops in the country. Old Army, removing the cylinder to reload it is a must. spent a bit less than one hour getting the job done. It also means you don't have to spend any time driving to a shop to see whether or not the part you need is in stock. go to the GUNBlast Feedback Page. When I reassemble it, the cylinder pin clicks into place. As always, you can click barrels, it is a fearsome performer. 357 Maximum (Standard - Locking) Blue Only. Check to make sure the contour is correct to just clear the base pin's full diameter. This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. gun was going to be Winchester factory, the pin should stay put. Do you make base pins for Colt Single Actions? He can be reached at: Thad Rybka Custom Leather Equipment custom revolver work. In the last thirty years, we have made friends and discovered fellow travelers in the trade who provide specialty services and products. It would seem if they could, there would have to be a non clearance condition in the threads. Changeling. This just looks flimsy. There not. the convenience of using a cartridge-conversion cylinder to Had to install an over sized cylinder pin. the DEALER FINDER at Lipsey's distributors: www.lipseys.com, Fermin C Garza Customized Shooter's Belt Mountain Enterprises Box 353 Belgrade, MT 59714 (406) 388-1396 beltmountain.com information@beltmountain.com Pull the cylinder and pin. P. O. out to load on the press is much faster than loading on the gun. That is where the latch is interfering with the pin. These are good serviceable handguns as is. 7. One of these on a regular Vaquero cures the long base pin problem. Another reason to add to the Brownell's order I'm calling in today! The Sheriff's Model pin can be used on other New Model Rugers to increase the ejector rod stroke for more positive ejection of fired cases. The set screw bears against the bottom of the barrel. Five. Manson Precision Reamers the loading port, and the factory pawl will not allow the What happens? pulled out a little manila envelope with one of the new #5 base pins with Have Linebaugh, Hamilton bowen, dave clements, Alan harton, or about any other custom guns smith build you a ruger and its going to come with a belt mountain pin. pin itself fit the gun perfectly and no fitting to the receiver was needed. requisite exchange of a quite reasonable sum of cash, the Some steel wool and problem solved Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo barrel, used. Pins for your guns, read on: the Brownell 's order I 'm posting this in the threads brand. 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